Showing posts with label Ohio State. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ohio State. Show all posts

Monday, February 2, 2009

Ohio State 93, Indiana 81.

Despite one of the great individual shooting performances in IU history, 9 three pointers by freshman Matt Roth, IU couldn't outscore the Buckeyes, who shot 63 percent for the game and 73 percent in the second half. Here's the box score. The IU offense was very effective. IU's 1.15 points per possession is the best IU has done against Division I competition this season. The turnover percentage of 18.1 was IU's lowest of the Big Ten season. Unfortunately, IU's defensive performance was the worst of the season across the board. Really, Roth's shooting masked a 37% shooting percentage for the team, but kept the Hoosiers in the game for about 30 of its 40 minutes.
There's not much more to say about this game. I'm happy to have seen Roth show his excellent shooting ability, and there's no doubt in my mind, as I have said before, that once IU's overall talent level increases, Roth will be a key contributor. Next, IU faces Iowa, the Hoosiers' best remaining chance for a win. We shall see.

Saturday, January 31, 2009

Ohio State, Round II.

Ohio State Buckeyes
Current record: 14-5 (4-4)
Current RPI: 22
Current Sagarin: 28
Current Pomeroy: 48
2007-08 record: 24-13 (10-8) (won NIT)
2007-08 RPI: 46
2007-08 Sagarin: 21
2007-08 Pomeroy: 29
Series: IU leads 101-72
Last Ohio State win: 1/13/2009 (77-53 in Columbus)
Last IU win: 2/26/2008 (72-69 in Bloomington)
Last OSU win in Bloomington: 2/21/2004 (59-56)
Pomeroy scouting report
TV: 4 pm, ESPN2
IU plays its first repeat customer of the Big Ten season this afternoon. IU's loss in Columbus, along with the loss at Illinois, was one of IU's two completely non-competitive games of the seven Big Ten losses. After a strong nonconference season, OSU has gone 4-4 in the Big Ten, with a 1-3 road record and a home loss to Michigan State. Pomeroy projects OSU to finish 9-9 in the conference, so a loss today could lead to some uneasiness in Columbus about the Buckeyes' NCAA prospects. In the first IU-OSU game of the season, the Buckeyes, especially Jon Diebler, ended the game early by making 11 three pointers in the first half.
The Buckeye defense, a strength of the team early in the season, has fallen back to the pack a bit, particularly in Big Ten road games. Although OSU still ranks #34 nationally in adjusted defensive efficiency, the Buckeyes' 1.02 points per possession allowed in conference games is middle-of the-pack (IU, of course, is comfortably worst in both offensive and defensive efficiency. Still, this promises to be a struggle.
See Eleven Warriors for the OSU perspective.

Wednesday, January 14, 2009

Ohio State 77, Indiana 53.

Here are the stats. IU competed for most of the second half, and actually managed to pull within 13 points at one point, but like all too many of IU's games this season and for the second game in a row, it was over by the first media timeout. IU's perimeter defense continues to be a problem, and Ohio State made 11 three pointers in the first half, accounting for 75 percent of their scoring. Jon Diebler made 5 of those three pointers. I noted in the preview that Diebler's height and shooting ability could prove a deadly combination. Certainly, some of those shots were wide open, but at least a couple were "contested" by a much shorter IU player. IU's .81 points per possession will win very few games, and the 24.8 turnover percentage, while not awful by this team's standards, continues to be a problem. Verdell Jones looked more comfortable attacking the basket than he ever has, but accounted for five of those turnovers. IU did rebound well (38 percent on the offensive end to 21 percent by OSU), but the Buckeyes made so many three pointers that it didn't matter. Other random thoughts:
  • Dallas Lauderdale looks old enough to be Greg Oden's father.
  • Tom Prtichard was fairly effective, scoring 16 points on 14 shots and grabbing 11 rebounds.
  • Devan Dumes struggled in his return from an ankles injury (is it a return if he didn't miss a game), shooting 3-12 from the field and finishing with 8 points.
  • Broderick Lewis, a freshman walk-on from Lafayette, received his first meaningful minutes, and played reasonably well. He didn't have an official field goal attempt, but shot 3-4 from the line and had two rebounds and no turnovers. Lewis is 6-6 and was a state finalist in the long jump in high school. He had the reputation of not being a particularly skilled basketball player, but hopefully he will improve and continue to contribute.
  • Although he is a graduate of Lafayette Jeff, his hometown is listed as "West Lafayette." IU has Verdell Jones from Champaign, and will have Jordan Hulls from Bloomington next year, which is a fair representation of Big Ten college towns.
Check out the Buckeye perspective here and here.

Well, as I said, IU at least has some conceivably winnable games in the future, although IU will be a decided underdog in all three. In my mind, Saturday is a major "pride game" for this program. This team is going to finish with IU's worst record in generations, so there won't be much opportunity for major milestones. But Penn State has never won at Assembly Hall. Continuing that streak, while not banner-worthy, could be some sort of source of pride for this team.

Tuesday, January 13, 2009

The Ohio State game.

Ohio State Buckeyes
Current record: 11-3
Current RPI: 30
Current Sagarin: 29
Current Pomeroy: 45
2007-08 record: 24-13 (10-8) (won NIT)
2007-08 RPI: 46
2007-08 Sagarin: 21
2007-08 Pomeroy: 29
Series: IU leads 101-71
Last Ohio State win: 1/2/2007 (74-67 in Columbus)
Last IU win: 2/26/2008 (72-69 in Bloomington)
Last IU win in Columbus: 2/10/2008 (59-53)
Pomeroy scouting report
TV: 7 pm, ESPN

IU's rough road in the Big Ten seems likely to get rougher tonight. After playing competitively in close losses to Iowa and Michigan, IU was humiliated at Illinois, and Ohio State seems likely to continue that trend. The Buckeyes are one of the country' best defensive teams, allowing only .89 points per possession. The Buckeyes' numbers don't reveal any particular excellence in rebounding or steals/turnovers. The Buckeyes simply play excellent two point field goal defense, block lots of shots, and their opponents don't get to the line. OSU opponents shoot fewer free throws per field goal attempt than against all but ten other teams, and OSU ranks #33 and #21 in three point and two point field goal defense. On offense, OSU shoots well from two point range and takes good care of the ball.

The Buckeyes are tall. Evan Turner leads OSU with about 15 points per game and is shooting 49 percent from the field, and just below that from two point range. John Diebler, a three point specialist who also happens to be 6-5, seems like a particularly bad matchup.

As if this team's best day weren't bad enough, IU is likely to be without one of its key players, Devan Dumes. Dumes twisted his ankle in the Illinois game and per Inside the Hall, Tom Crean described Dumes as a "game time decision at best." I think it's unlikely that he will play. After tonight's game, IU plays Penn State at home, Minnesota at home, and at Northwestern. While IU will be the underdog in all of those games, they seem a bit more realistic than the prospect of winning at OSU even with Dumes.

Despite the football-oriented name, Eleven Warriors is an OSU blog that acknowledges the existence of basketball and previews the IU game.

Thursday, February 28, 2008

Indiana 72, Ohio State 69.

Here's the box score. Not a pretty game statistically. As has been pointed out elsewhere, IU created a bunch of open shots in the first half but could not make many. IU was 3-16 from behind the arc in the first half and didn't take any memorably bad shots. The pace was fairly fast (68 possessions per), and this wasn't a shooting exhibition for anyone. Eric Gordon had a particularly rough game. Although he scored 17 points, he was 4-16 from the field and had 7 turnovers. IU rebounded 19 of its 42 misses, and forced 16 OSU turnovers.
Not really a memorable game. IU, despite poor shooting in the first half, took advantage of even worse OSU shooting to take a big lead, and held on for the rest of the game. We'll take them however they come these days, I guess, and hope that the Hoosiers can end their long East Lansing losing streak on Sunday.

Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Ohio State, take 2.

Ohio State Buckeyes
Current record: 17-10
Big Ten record: 8-6
Current RPI: 54
Current Sagarin: 37
2006-07 record: 30-3, 15-1 (NCAA runner-up)
2006-07 RPI: 1
2006-07 Sagarin: 2
Series: IU leads 100-72
Last IU win: 2/10/08 (59-53 in Columbus)
Last Ohio State win: 1/2/07 (74-67 in Columbus)
Last OSU win in Bloomington: 2/21/04 (59-56)
TV: 7 pm tonight, ESPN
Sorry, not much time for analysis today. The Buckeyes have squandered some opportunities. OSU dropped a road game to improving-but-still-bad Michigan the Sunday before last and then squandered an opportunity to knock off Wisconin at home. OSU, while its tournament hopes are in jeopardy, has opportunity, in the form of tonight's game at IU and with home games against MSU and Purdue, but also could end up 9-9 and firmly in the NIT. As noted before the first game, Ohio State excels at field goal defense and shot blocking but not much else. The Buckeyes' three point shooting and overall offensive production (aggravated by some turnover problems) have not been good. Still, IU's only game under interim coach Dan Dakich was a last minute win against 0-14 Northwestern. The Hoosiers, when faced with adversity the last two weeks, played well in a loss to Wisconsin and comfortably beat Michigan State and Purdue. Now that Sampson is gone and Dakich is in charge, can IU recover and beat a team with a pulse? The road game at MSU Sunday will determine IU's fate in the Big Ten race, but only if IU takes care of should-wins against OSU, Minnesota, and at Penn State.

Friday, February 15, 2008

Contracts 101.

Much of the talk in recent days has concerned what IU can and cannot do pursuant the terms of Kelvin Sampson's employment contract. Of particular concern has been Jim O'Brien's successful suit against Ohio State. The trial court ruled and the appellate court affirmed that Ohio State's firing of O'Brien for cause was a breach of the contract. It's worth considering the similarities and differences between O'Brien's circumstances and Sampson's circumstances. Nothing I say below should be considered a statement of fact or an irrefutable legal opinion. These things are hotly contested, often for years.

Sampson's contract (.pdf)

Sorry if you will have to click on these images to read them, but I'm not typing them in.












As you can see, the first two images above contain the definition of just cause, the third image shows the procedure for termination for just cause, and the final image discusses termination without cause.
O'Brien's contract

Here are the relevant terms of O'Brien's contract, taken from the September 20, 2007 opinion of the Court of Appeals of Ohio. This does not appear to be a reported opinion, but the Westlaw citation for O'Brien v. Ohio State Univ. is 2007 WL 2729077 and the cause number is 06AP946.


5.1 Termination for Cause-Ohio State may terminate this agreement at any time for cause, which, for the purposes of this agreement, shall be limited to the occurrence of one or more of the following:
(a) a material breach of this agreement by Coach, which Coach fails to remedy to OSU's reasonable satisfaction, within a reasonable time period, not to exceed thirty (30) days, after receipt of a written notice from Ohio [S]tate specifying the act(s), conduct or omission(s) constituting such breach;
(b) a violation by Coach * * * of applicable law, policy, rule or regulation of the NCAA or the Big Ten Conference which leads to a “major” infraction investigation by the NCAA or the Big Ten Conference and which results in a finding by the NCAA or the Big Ten Conference of lack of institutional control over the men's basketball program or which results in Ohio State being sanctioned by the NCAA or the Big Ten Conference * * *.

5.2 Termination Other Than For Cause/Partial Liquidated Damages. If Coach's employment hereunder is terminated by Ohio State other than for cause (as delineated in Section 5.1 above), Ohio State shall pay and provide to Coach, as partial liquidated damages * * * (i) the full amount of Coach's then-current base salary (see Section 3.0 above) and (ii) such normal employee benefits as Ohio State then provides generally to its administrative and professional employees * * *.

5.3 Termination Other than for Cause/Additional Liquidated Damages. If Coach's employment is terminated other than for cause (as delineated in Section 5.1 above), in addition to the liquidated damages to be paid and provided by Ohio State pursuant to Section 5.2 above, Ohio State shall compensate Coach for the loss of collateral business opportunities (whether media, public relations, camps, clinics, apparel or similar contracts, sponsorships or any other supplemental or collateral compensation or benefit of any kind) by paying Coach as additional liquidated damages * * *[.]
b. an amount equal to three and a half (3.5) times the product of (y) the Coach's then current base salary * * * and (z) the number of years remaining under the term of this agreement * * *, if Coach's employment is terminated after June 30, 2003. Such amount shall be paid in a lump sum within thirty (30) days after termination of Coach's employment hereunder, and shall be in lieu of any other obligation of Ohio State * * *.

The differences

Not surprisingly, a contract negotiated by a coach after a Final Four appearance looks a bit different from a contract negotiated by a coach under NCAA investigation. Now, the Ohio appellate opinion is 23 pages long, so any effort to quickly summarize it may be lacking. But as you can tell, the "for cause" provisions of the two contracts are quite different. Ohio State got in to trouble because they tried to fire O'Brien under paragraph 5.1(a), for materially breaching the contract by doing what OSU perceived to be an NCAA violation. But the second part of that paragraph, 5.2(b), states that O'Brien could be fired upon an NCAA finding of lack of institutional control or NCAA sanctions. Courts generally disfavor contractual interpretations that render parts of the contract meaningless, and allowing OSU to fire O'Brien because of OSU's own belief that an NCAA violation had occurred would render 5.2(b) meaningless. And of course, OSU couldn't have fired O'Brien in June 2004 based on 5.2(b) because the NCAA had not even investigated yet.
Sampson's contract does contain provisions that allow IU to terminate Sampson for cause on the basis of NCAA violations. But Sampson's contract does not explicitly require a finding by the NCAA that a violation has occurred. The contract speaks of a violation "which may result in the University being placed on probation...." It certainly seems that there is no requirement that IU wait until the NCAA hands down its punishment. If IU were to act before the NCAA's ruling, would the university have a leg to stand on? It sure appears so. Airtight? I haven't done enough research to know, and there's really no such thing, at least when it comes to preventing litigation. But clearly, the relevant provisions of Sampson's contract are different from O'Brien's contract. The O'Brien contract explicitly required that the university allow the process to play out before firing O'Brien for cause. The Sampson contract contains no such explicit requirement. I'm sure this is one of the issues that IU is exploring, and IU's attorneys have much more to work with than did OSU's attorneys.
Finally, paragraph C above, the third image, contains IU's procedures for termination for just cause. Many of us have wondered why IU is allowing Greenspan to take part in this process. The simple answer may be that however much confidence the president and trustees have in Greenspan, they don't want to do anything that runs afoul of the specific procedure described in the contract. The contract says that the AD performs the investigation, so the AD is performing the investigation.
As an aside, even though it's not terribly relevant, I have included the "without cause" provisions of both contracts. O'Brien's buyout was much more generous. IU would owe only base salary, while OSU also owed for loss of outside income.

Monday, February 11, 2008

Indiana 59, Ohio State 53.

Here's the box. IU finally played well in a game against a somewhat quality opponent on the road and led most of the way against Ohio State in Columbus. IU now begins a three game homestand against Wisconsin (Wednesday) Michigan State (Saturday) and Purdue (Tuesday) that likely will decide the Big Ten championship. If IU wins the next three, the Hoosiers likely will become the favorite to win the conference. Any misstep would give an advantage to whichever team manages to beat IU in Bloomington. Thanks to Purdue's win in Madison on Saturday, the Boilers are in a great position, but are disadvantaged in that they have to go to Bloomington and IU doesn't have to go to Mackey. Sometime early in the week I will take a look at the four contenders' remaining schedules (OSU's loss today probably ended OSU's slim hopes).
This was a snail slow game, if my math is correct, about 56.5 possessions per. OSU is always a slow, defensive minded team, and IU's zone really forced the Buckeyes to take their time today. OSU shot only 7-27 from three point range (26.5%), and that accounted for over half of OSU's 53 field goal attempts. In short, the zone worked, in that it forced a poor three point shooting team to bomb away (although OSU did shoot 50 percent from 2). Both teams had identical rebound numbers (10 offensive, 23 defensive), with both teams holding their own on the defensive end. Uncharacteristically, IU shot only one free throw until the last minute of the game, when OSU was forced to start fouling, but finished 7-7 for the game. OSU was 4-8 from the line. IU's total of seven turnovers isn't quite as impressive as it might be given the pace, but that's still less than a 13 percent turnover percentage. Very good. While IU led for most of the way, this really was a game of inches. IU shot just a bit better from the field, took just a little better care of the ball, and made free throws at the end. Still, a nice win over a talented team in a situation that seemed ripe for letdown. I'll come back with an edit to discuss the individual lines.
EDIT: the individuals:
  • Absent a big change, I think DJ White will edge his teammate Eric Gordon for Big Ten MVP. White was great again today: 10-15 from the field, 13 rebounds, 21 points.
  • Gordon scored 15 points on 10 shots, thanks to 3-8 from three point range. Gordon shot (and made) four free throws, all in the last 30 seconds of the game. He had two turnovers, but both were offensive fouls, one obvious and the other iffy.
  • Jordan Crawford has been infuriating at times this season, but he's going to be a great player. Crawford has shot very well at times this season (not today), but he really played well outside of his 3-10 shooting today: 8 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, no turnovers.
  • Lance Stemler really struggled: 1-6 from the field, including 0-4 from three. A couple of his good looks could have secured this game before the final minute.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to the rotation at the 4. Kyle Taber played 16 minutes today, Mike White 2, Stemler 24, and Deandre Thomas none. It will be best for the team in the long term if White and Thomas can earn some of Stemler's and Taber's minute with their play, but Sampson seems to be sick of waiting for them to do so.

Sunday, February 10, 2008

The Ohio State game.

Ohio State Buckeyes
Current record: 16-7
Big Ten record: 7-3
Current RPI: 31
Current Sagarin: 30
2006-07 record: 30-3, 15-1 (NCAA runner-up)
2006-07 RPI: 1
2006-07 Sagarin: 2
Series: IU leads 99-72
Last IU win: 1/7/06 (81-79 in Bloomington)
Last Ohio State win: 1/2/07 (74-67 in Columbus)
Last IU win in Columbus: 1/20/04 (69-61)
TV: 1 pm Sunday, CBS
Eleven Warriors has a nice preview up.
While Ohio State is flying beneath the radar, escaping the attention given to the top four teams in the standings (IU, Purdue, Wisconsin, and Michigan State), the Buckeyes still have the opportunity to make a run in the Big Ten and should qualify for the NCAA Tournament. While IU already is finished with Iowa, Illinois, and Michigan, this is the Hoosiers' first look at the Buckeyes. This game is also IU's last good chance to win a quality road game. After this game, IU has only three road games remaining: a likely loss at MSU and likely wins at Penn State and Northwestern. A win tomorrow would make a 16-2 conference record a realistic possibility.
The Buckeyes play slowly (64.8 possessions per game) and, like Illinois, distinguish themselves with their field goal defense. They allow 42.9 % from two point range (#22) and 30.2 percent from three (#17). Offensively, other than two point field goal percentage (#58), OSU really doesn't distinguish itself. The Buckeyes are really bad at getting to the line and at shooting three pointers, but basically are middling at everything else. OSU's only home loss was in the Big Ten/ACC challenge to North Carolina. The Buckeyes, like most teams that have had success against IU. Of the nine Buckeyes who play meaningful minutes, four are 6-8 or taller and all but two are 6-5 or taller.
Senior guard Jamar Butler is the key to OSU's offense. He shoots 41 percent from three point range and averages 14.8 points per game. Othello Hunter averages only 9.5 points per game but he shoots 57 percent from the field. Hunter and Kosta Koufos (OSU's only other double digit scorers) are basically tied with about 6.7 rebounds per game.
Pomeroy gives Ohio State about a 55 percent chance of winning. IU must be drained after the effort Thursday night. This feels like a letdown game, and if IU wins, in whatever manner, we should feel good about it.

Thursday, August 30, 2007

BTB Roundtable, week 1.

Sean at Around the Oval, an Ohio State blog, has taken the lead on the first week of the Big Ten Bloggers Roundtable. This will be a weekly feature "hosted" by various Big Ten bloggers. Here are this week's questions and my answers:
1. Which player from your own team are you most looking forward to watching?
Kellen Lewis. As a fan of the "other" cellar-dwelling Big Ten football program from a school that begins with "I," allow me to vent:
Kellen Lewis: 190/346 (54.9%); 2221 yards; 14TD/7INT; 124/441 rushing (3.6); 5 rushing TDs; 20 sacks.
Juice Williams: 103/261 (39.5%); 1489 yards; 9TD/9INT; 154/576 (3.7); 2 rushing TDs; 25 sacks.
Yet, the Juice is expected to lead Illinois to the promised land this season, while Lewis mostly has slid under the radar. I understand, of course, that thanks to Zooker's inexplicable recruiting success, the Illinois supporting cast is part of the reason some are high on Juice, but Lewis does have James Hardy, Marcus Thigpen, and James Bailey at his disposal.
Lewis began last season as #3 on the Hoosiers' QB depth chart. Now, Lewis has spent nearly a year as a team leader and spent all of spring and fall practice working as the number one quarterback, continuing to build his relationship with his key receivers. Certainly, IU's defense will determine whether the Hoosiers play 13, but I am most curious to see where Kellen Lewis goes after a really promising freshman season.

2. Which player from another Big Ten team are you most looking forward to watching?
That's a tough one. I don't see a Charles Woodson/Troy Smith/Antwaan Randle El "must see" type player in the conference this season. PJ Hill will be fun to watch. Mike Hart is great, but Michigan routinely has an excellent tailback, so who cares? So, why not Todd Boeckman? In good ways and in bad ways, Ohio State fans are the most passionate in the conference on average. I'll be curious to see how the green guy operates in one of the most scrutinized positions in college football.

3. If your team was an action movie star, who would it be?
This is a tough one. Given IU's football history, my knee jerk response was that IU is like the stereotypical "Black Guy Who Gets Killed First," but I guess that's more of a horror movie convention. If IU were an action movie star, IU would be Matt Damon. Compared to stars such as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Segal, and The Rock, Damon is undersized and not nearly as physically talented or imposing. Damon's character Jason Bourne is constantly kicked around by powerful institutions such as the US Government (analogous to Michigan and Ohio State). Bourne is unsure of his real identity. Given the Hoosiers' myriad uniform and logo changes over the years, not to mention a lack of success and the program's stepchild status among IU fans, the IU football program has struggled with its identity. Typically, the Bourne movies end with the suggestion that Bourne has finally escaped his former government keepers. Now that IU has escaped Michigan and OSU for two years, will the Hoosiers end their long bowl drought? Stay tuned.

Monday, August 27, 2007

The season that was, game 8: Ohio State 44, Indiana 3.

Date: 10/21/06
Location: Ohio Stadium, Columbus, Ohio
Attendance: 105,267
Perhaps we all had some delusions of respectability in this game after the Iowa upset, but top-ranked OSU ended that pretty early, although not immediately. OSU gained 540 yards to IU's 165. The Buckeyes allowed IU only 7 rushing yards. Still, this one was fun for most of the first quarter. IU received the opening kickoff, managed a decent 7 play, 23 yard drive, and then OSU was 3 and out. IU scored a field goal on its second possession and again forced the Buckeyes to punt quickly. OSU scored touchdowns on its next three possessions, and that was that. The Hoosiers and Buckeyes don't play until 2009, so there's not much point in saying much more.

Sunday, April 1, 2007

OSU against Florida.

It's a replay of the BCS championship game, except that the two schools' fans actually care about football. I was very proud of my bracket entering this weekend, because for the first time in memory I correctly picked every Final Four qualifier. Unfortunately, I had Georgetown winning it all, so I'm not going to win any money.
It's odd. I really didn't give much thought to OSU, Oden, and Conley during the regular season. As Norm Dale would say, I support the IU team for what they are rather than dwelling on what they are not. Still, ever since IU was eliminated, the bitter factor has been increasing. I have nothing against Oden and Conley. They made wise decisions, electing not to entrust their careers to Mike Davis. But I'm petty, and I don't want them to win a championship. I don't want to see a new college basketball power on our eastern border that exists primarily because of the nonfeasance of the IU administration in March 2005. So be it. The future is bright at IU, but Kelvin Sampson has a tougher job because the administration waited too long to make a move on Davis.

Sunday, March 25, 2007

Adam Herbert's legacy at IU.



There's no guarantee that firing Mike Davis in 2005 would have resulted in Greg Oden and Mike Conley enrolling at IU, but failing to fire Mike Davis after IU's two worst seasons of the last 35 years guaranteed that the best high school twosome in Indiana history would go elsewhere. Recruits and their parents figured out Mike Davis long before the administration did. Oh well. They made the right decision, unfortunately. Let's just make sure we never again allow IU to be a non-factor in recruitment of players like this.